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vice president joe biden says a deal could be done in 15 minutes. all this comes as the government announces a gain of 146,000 jobs in the month of november. the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%. that is the lowest in four years but that was mostly due to people who stopped looking for work. both sides agree the u.s. does not want to follow down the path of greece. what is to blame there? too much austerity or too much taxation? we'll look at the problems inside his own party, for speaker boehner. it's friday. that means the lightning round with the panel. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ >> bob: kay. there is music for you. on december 3 last year, 16-year-old tyler alfred from oklahoma was driving under the influence and crashed his pickup truck killing his passenger and friend 16-year-old john luke. he pleaded guilty to first degree man slaughter in august. in the muskogee county -- it's oklahoma, district judge mike norman he sided not to give him -- decided not to give him jail
vice president joe biden says a deal could be done in 15 minutes. all this comes as the government announces a gain of 146,000 jobs in the month of november. the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%. that is the lowest in four years but that was mostly due to people who stopped looking for work. both sides agree the u.s. does not want to follow down the path of greece. what is to blame there? too much austerity or too much taxation? we'll look at the problems inside his own party, for speaker...
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he after all is the person we have to thank -- >> the joe biden playbook. >> and taking a page from it. >> thank you to ari, joy and frank for joining me today. that is all for us here at "now." see you back tomorrow at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by josh green, new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells, former communications chair karen finney, "washington post's" melinda headen burger and carrie kennedy. for a twitter tutorial, follow @nowwithalex on your twitter machine. "amount reports" is coming up next. anncr: some politicians seem to think medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪
he after all is the person we have to thank -- >> the joe biden playbook. >> and taking a page from it. >> thank you to ari, joy and frank for joining me today. that is all for us here at "now." see you back tomorrow at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by josh green, new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells, former communications chair karen finney, "washington post's" melinda headen burger and carrie kennedy. for a twitter tutorial, follow...
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vice president biden doing something similar today. what does the president hope to accomplish with visits like that and photo opes like this. >> this is a movie where we have a spoiler alert where we know the ending here. it goes one of two ways. we have taxes go up for everyone or the rich. president obama is making it clear to john boehner who aappears to be anyway public denial to try to stall time to prevent that from happening. >> is that the goal whether he comes out and has press conferences like that, is he posturing? what is he doing, if the end has already been decided. >> i don't know if it's been decided, but there's inevitablity here. the way it works is this is not an even fight where the republicans and democrats start in a certain way. if nothing happens, taxes go up at the new year, and that's a problem for republicans. it's a better hand for democrats. the alternatives is taxes go up for everyone or the top 2%. that's an inevitable reality. i think john boehner has a lot of completing political interest here. he has
vice president biden doing something similar today. what does the president hope to accomplish with visits like that and photo opes like this. >> this is a movie where we have a spoiler alert where we know the ending here. it goes one of two ways. we have taxes go up for everyone or the rich. president obama is making it clear to john boehner who aappears to be anyway public denial to try to stall time to prevent that from happening. >> is that the goal whether he comes out and has...
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vice president biden suggested there's wiggle room over rates. here it is. >> americtheoretically we can negotiate how far up, but we think the top rate should go to 39.6%. >> but that's not in concrete. what rate would be acceptable to you and house democrats? >> that sounds pretty good to e me. however, i think if we fall to the clinton era tax rates, i'm okay with that. i think that e we ought to have some wiggle room on the tax rates because i think the country wants us to compromise. so there's compromise space there, but make no mistake, we're not going to compromise away the upper end tax rates. that's on the table. it will stay on the table. that's what the american people are asking for. >> congressman, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate your time. remember to answer tonight's question. share your thoughts on twitter and on facebook. we always encourage you and want to know what you think. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell filibusters his own bill in the senate. bernie sanders joins us to talk about what that mea
vice president biden suggested there's wiggle room over rates. here it is. >> americtheoretically we can negotiate how far up, but we think the top rate should go to 39.6%. >> but that's not in concrete. what rate would be acceptable to you and house democrats? >> that sounds pretty good to e me. however, i think if we fall to the clinton era tax rates, i'm okay with that. i think that e we ought to have some wiggle room on the tax rates because i think the country wants us to...
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just a couple years ago to extend the bush tax cut and the white house to call biden and will, whisperer. and the horse whisperer and one for you, one for me, one for you, one for me. that's hard, but that's the way you make a deal. >> at this moment does it look like the image of a christmas eve company or steve or do week over the cliff? >> who knows. somebody who thinks they know is only guessing. maybe there's some strategy in the white house that by a certain date a work something out. >> really stop the morning with the papers. we still love the current papers. mr. woodward is assistant managing editor of the "washington post," which says fiscal year earnings yet to face wall street as stock markets are convinced that the fiscal drama is going to work out. the "financial times" has the opposite headline. they say wall street anxiety grows. so which of these is more true? >> on wall street they live in the zone of eternal and i'm peaceful coexistence of optimism and pessimism. you can talk to somebody who's in the investment world on wall street and in the morning and they're optimi
just a couple years ago to extend the bush tax cut and the white house to call biden and will, whisperer. and the horse whisperer and one for you, one for me, one for you, one for me. that's hard, but that's the way you make a deal. >> at this moment does it look like the image of a christmas eve company or steve or do week over the cliff? >> who knows. somebody who thinks they know is only guessing. maybe there's some strategy in the white house that by a certain date a work...
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joe biden? too old? >> andrew cuomo. >> governor of maryland, martin o'malley. all those people in nation themselves as potential -- >> will they really challenge celebrate? there is -- challenge hillary? >> there is a pattern of challenging miller, as demonstrated by the only man since dwight, barack obama. >> did you get a commission of for that? >> i want to share it with you, charles. >> see you next week. >> "inside washington" is brought to you in part by the american federation of government employees, proud to make america work. for more information about afge and membership, visit afge.org. assa ccy do you remember what you did with your last cell phone? in the us alone there are over 500 million cell phones laying around ready to be recycled. what happens to all these old chargers and cell phones? unfortunatel y, many of them are thrown away. cell phones contain lead, mercury, arsenic and other poisons. these toxic chemicals can find their way into our water supply when they're thrown into landfills - and pollute our air when they're incinerated. right
joe biden? too old? >> andrew cuomo. >> governor of maryland, martin o'malley. all those people in nation themselves as potential -- >> will they really challenge celebrate? there is -- challenge hillary? >> there is a pattern of challenging miller, as demonstrated by the only man since dwight, barack obama. >> did you get a commission of for that? >> i want to share it with you, charles. >> see you next week. >> "inside washington" is...
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>> i don't know that even biden could really. biden has been a very good vice president and if things keep going, he doesn't have her star power. he doesn't have her ability to attract money. he doesn't have the excitement that she'll offer to democratic base voters. okay we elected the first african-american president. now let's finish and elect the first woman president now. i don't think anybody has that kind of calling card. >> it comes down to the money. the one thing the clintons can do is raise money. that may endear them. the money game is certainly different than what it was before. what about that? >> i think that's right. and she's not going to have outside of biden, who i don't think is really stiff competition for her. i don't think outside of that there is. it's not going to be like in 2008 she was one of three in the top tier. she's going to be the top tier in 2016 if she decides to run. but the circumstances have to be right for her.
>> i don't know that even biden could really. biden has been a very good vice president and if things keep going, he doesn't have her star power. he doesn't have her ability to attract money. he doesn't have the excitement that she'll offer to democratic base voters. okay we elected the first african-american president. now let's finish and elect the first woman president now. i don't think anybody has that kind of calling card. >> it comes down to the money. the one thing the...
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joe biden? too old? >> andrew cuomo. >> governor of maryland, martin o'malley. all those people in nation themselves as potential -- >> will they really challenge celebrate? there is -- challenge hillary? >> there is a pattern of challenging miller, as demonstrated by the only man since dwight eisenhower to win 50% of the vote or more, barack obama. >> did you get a commission of for that? >> i want to share it with you, charles. >> see you next week. >> "inside washington" is brought to you in part by the american federation of government employees, proud to make america work. for more information about afge and membership, visit afge.org. assa >>> from washington, the mclaughlin group, the american original. for over three decades, the
joe biden? too old? >> andrew cuomo. >> governor of maryland, martin o'malley. all those people in nation themselves as potential -- >> will they really challenge celebrate? there is -- challenge hillary? >> there is a pattern of challenging miller, as demonstrated by the only man since dwight eisenhower to win 50% of the vote or more, barack obama. >> did you get a commission of for that? >> i want to share it with you, charles. >> see you next week....
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by the way joe biden wrote the law. >> cenk: i hope you're right. biden and obama don't have a great record on this. let's bring in a different point of view. you and i agree we're optimistic about the laws that we hope it goes in the right direction and spreads across the country. i'll bring in sandra, a member of colorado concern. i don't believe she shares our point of view. what is your take on legalizing marijuana in colorado. >> good evening cenk, happy to be here. i represent the business community, and we're very concerned about the passage of amendment 164 and it's implication for business and for colorado. >> cenk: why? >> that's our concern. >> cenk: i don't get that? i guess if you represent the alcohol companies you might be worried about competition but why the business. >> we're concerned about productivity our liabilities our obligations and relationship to our employees. it changes the relationship. we have established a constitutional right to use marijuana, and that changes the game. we have concerns about that. >> what she is say
by the way joe biden wrote the law. >> cenk: i hope you're right. biden and obama don't have a great record on this. let's bring in a different point of view. you and i agree we're optimistic about the laws that we hope it goes in the right direction and spreads across the country. i'll bring in sandra, a member of colorado concern. i don't believe she shares our point of view. what is your take on legalizing marijuana in colorado. >> good evening cenk, happy to be here. i represent...
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the old joe biden way when he would deal with mitch mcconnell just a couple of years ago. extend the bush tax cuts in the white house they called by in the mcconnell-whisper. in the horse whisperer, one for you, one for me. that is hard. that is the way you make a deal. >> at this moment, does it look to you like we have a deal by christmas eve, new year's eve, for do we go over the cliff? >> who knows? if somebody who thinks they know is only guessing. maybe there is some strategy in the white house that, you know, by a certain date they will fort something out. >> we always start the morning with the papers. mr. woodward is the assistant managing editor of "the which sayspost wh" the stock markets are convinced that the trauma will work out. at the -- "the financial times" has the different headline. which of these is more true? [laughter] >> on wall street, they live in the zone of a on peaceful coexistence of optimism and pessimism. you can speak to somebody in the investment world on wall street and in the morning they are optimistic and in the afternoon they are pess
the old joe biden way when he would deal with mitch mcconnell just a couple of years ago. extend the bush tax cuts in the white house they called by in the mcconnell-whisper. in the horse whisperer, one for you, one for me. that is hard. that is the way you make a deal. >> at this moment, does it look to you like we have a deal by christmas eve, new year's eve, for do we go over the cliff? >> who knows? if somebody who thinks they know is only guessing. maybe there is some strategy...
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you might have noticed that vice president biden and i were chatting. he bet me that he would give the shortest speech. [laughter] for me to win that, i would have to sit down right now. warren was my friend. i met him back in 1975. i was campaigning for president ford's election. we became good friends from that time. six years later we would serve in the senate together. we learned we had a lot in common. both our grandfathers immigrated from small towns along the polish border. both of them passed through ellis island. neither warren or i ever knew the real names of our grandparents. they both lived in the lower manhattan eastside. neither one could make a living there. both of them migrated north. both of them ended up in maine. we have a lot of common. my family stayed there. warren's went to move to new hampshire. our motto was, "that is the way life should be." new hampshire was, "live free or die." [laughter] he lives truly free, and he was prepared to fight for that freedom. we shared a moderate republican philosophy. i always try to approach i
you might have noticed that vice president biden and i were chatting. he bet me that he would give the shortest speech. [laughter] for me to win that, i would have to sit down right now. warren was my friend. i met him back in 1975. i was campaigning for president ford's election. we became good friends from that time. six years later we would serve in the senate together. we learned we had a lot in common. both our grandfathers immigrated from small towns along the polish border. both of them...
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joe biden, who said it would have moral suasion. treaties are useless. what matters is force. the united states president says that something w will happen if they use them to do you think he cares if i.t. is written on a treaty? >> who said treaty? >> i am making a retroactive point. >> making a red line this is important. i am not sure what the red line is. and i am not sure how you bomb chemical weapons. >> you cannot. >> it comes down to what form will that intervention take? >> there is no use of a drone. if this ppens, you have to seize the weapons. >> what of the weapons fall at the hands -- >> i think the real issue is not that assad will l usehem, because he hangs if he does that. the world will t give them refuge in russia orlsewhere. the problem is if he is losing antril air bases, military bases, losing control on the ground. if this is tough ends up in the hands of jihadists we really have an issue, and that is where the u.s. and turkey and others are worried about seizing it before it happens. otherwise we have al qaeda with chemical -- >> i don't disagree. i thi
joe biden, who said it would have moral suasion. treaties are useless. what matters is force. the united states president says that something w will happen if they use them to do you think he cares if i.t. is written on a treaty? >> who said treaty? >> i am making a retroactive point. >> making a red line this is important. i am not sure what the red line is. and i am not sure how you bomb chemical weapons. >> you cannot. >> it comes down to what form will that...
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today vice president biden is hosting middle-class families at the white house, continuing to pressure congress to strike a deal on tax rates below 250,000. yesterday, the president struck a hopeful note with a middle-income family in virginia, while maintaining a hardline on negotiations. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a sovble problem. i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for rate at the top 2% but i remain optimistic we can get something done for that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> but the clock is ticking. with just two full weeks before christmas to go. joining me now from washington, the man with all the answers, cnbc's ayman jabbers. it's always so good and important to have you on the show. >> thanks. >> in general, but on days like today, where the numbers come out and we all think to ourselves, is this everything or nothing? what do these numbers mean and what do they portend for the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> it strengthens th
today vice president biden is hosting middle-class families at the white house, continuing to pressure congress to strike a deal on tax rates below 250,000. yesterday, the president struck a hopeful note with a middle-income family in virginia, while maintaining a hardline on negotiations. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a sovble problem. i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for rate at the...
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hillary clinton's favorable rating is at 0%, higher than the president's, higher than vice president biden. she is more popular than the republicans tested who may be laying the groundwork. paul ryan, jeb bush and marco rubio. by the way, newt gingrich said sunday on "meet the press" what makes her such a formidable opponent. >> if the competitor in 2016 will be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably still relatively popular president barack obama trying to win that will be truly the super bowl and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> so should we do our little meter every week? do you want to us do it every day? tweet me some advice. how do we deal with hillary watch 2016? if you want it daily, let us know. if you want it weekly, if you need a break, you're not going to get a break. the question is daily or weekly and we'll throw jeb into that mix as well. clinton still has some real work to do before she leaves her current job, and it may well be dominated by the crisis in syria where violence from the 21-month-old civil war is spilling
hillary clinton's favorable rating is at 0%, higher than the president's, higher than vice president biden. she is more popular than the republicans tested who may be laying the groundwork. paul ryan, jeb bush and marco rubio. by the way, newt gingrich said sunday on "meet the press" what makes her such a formidable opponent. >> if the competitor in 2016 will be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably still relatively popular president barack obama trying to win...
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and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president and to work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. you know, i think at this point, pretty much most folks in the country and certainly in this town know where both sides are on taxes. i think we understand that. but to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion and any specifics with this president about the real problem, which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending. and obsessions to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what will solve the p
and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we are ready and...
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joining me is former economic adviser to vice president joe biden, jared bernstein, and ron insana. you heard the speaker and his comments moments ago. this is good for the president, the jobs report, no doubt. he can argue that, my policies have been working, better tax hikes for the upper 2%, more amenable because the economy is coming along. how do democrats leverage this in the key cliff negotiations going on? >> i think the key point is that there is some momentum in the jobs report. the labor market diminished a little bit in december. that's why the unemployment rate fell down, not because of extra jobs. but all told, especially expecting sandy's damage, it was a pretty good report and it shows that there's some und underlying momentum. the argument from the president or from anyone who cares are this economic recovery, it would be a crazy time to throw a monkey wrench at an ongoing recovery that has a little bit of momentum. >> ron, to you on this. talking about sandy, there seems to be a lack of sandy effect as some had thought initially. we see a pullback, a little less th
joining me is former economic adviser to vice president joe biden, jared bernstein, and ron insana. you heard the speaker and his comments moments ago. this is good for the president, the jobs report, no doubt. he can argue that, my policies have been working, better tax hikes for the upper 2%, more amenable because the economy is coming along. how do democrats leverage this in the key cliff negotiations going on? >> i think the key point is that there is some momentum in the jobs report....
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we like joe biden, but we certainly have hit both parties. it's more just taking a step back and kind of making a comment about the legacy of the entire scene. >> how do you feel about here work being converted in the tv shows and movies? >> i love big trouble. >> they paid me a great deal of money. i have to be honest. it's always very awkward and uncomfortable for me. i used to having complete control. you don't have any control over anything. they give you money which is a good part. it ends up being about a horse and world war one. you don't know what they're going to do. >> that sounds kind of great. >> of take that. and people sail like it, that's great. i wrote the book was based on. then a lot of people hate it. i have to say i had nothing to do with that. >> are read the book and watch the movie. i enjoyed both. >> thank you. >> him with a group of about 85 of us over from naples. delightful to be here. >> we don't see anybody with you. >> conservative part of florida, servants -- anyway, i just wanted to the past what happened to th
we like joe biden, but we certainly have hit both parties. it's more just taking a step back and kind of making a comment about the legacy of the entire scene. >> how do you feel about here work being converted in the tv shows and movies? >> i love big trouble. >> they paid me a great deal of money. i have to be honest. it's always very awkward and uncomfortable for me. i used to having complete control. you don't have any control over anything. they give you money which is a...
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higher than vice president biden. higher than any of the potential 2016 republican candidates out there. first, you think she's going to run? >> i don't know yet, wolf. what i know is that she's committed to, you know, closing out her tenure at the state department, doing a great job at the state department. perhaps resting a little bit. we'll see what happens in 2014/2015. let me just say this, as vice chair of the party, there will probably be other candidates who will also seek the presidency in 2016. >> we'll get to that. do you think she's going to run? >> i have no idea. every smart person says she will. it sounds like it, but the challenge for republicans is to stop thinking so much about who and to start thinking more about what. what will the democratic message be in 2016 and in the four years leading up and what will the message the republicans have now? that was such an important message you raised in your last interview, can we start talking about ideas and not just about personalities. >> because most of
higher than vice president biden. higher than any of the potential 2016 republican candidates out there. first, you think she's going to run? >> i don't know yet, wolf. what i know is that she's committed to, you know, closing out her tenure at the state department, doing a great job at the state department. perhaps resting a little bit. we'll see what happens in 2014/2015. let me just say this, as vice chair of the party, there will probably be other candidates who will also seek the...
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if vice president biden runs, which has been speculated about, there will be a real conundrum, and i think there's a conundrum for the democratic establishment if secretary clinton goes there. a lot of people feel that she would really be able to get the support of the big democratic donors and traditional parts of democratic party but not be able to bring along new parts of obama coalition, hence the gay marriage sticking point. 2016 is definitely wide open. hillary clinton was referred to me recently by an operative on the democratic side, very involved in the early jockeying says she's the 800-pound gorilla. if she goes the field is not necessarily hers for the taking, but she would have a significant advantage coming into the race. >> when the former president is asked if his wife will run, he always says he has no idea. is there any indication behind the scenes that she's either annoyed, flattered or feels pressure as so many people -- the election wasn't even over, and everyone had their list of republicans running. of course, her name has always been there for democrats. >> i
if vice president biden runs, which has been speculated about, there will be a real conundrum, and i think there's a conundrum for the democratic establishment if secretary clinton goes there. a lot of people feel that she would really be able to get the support of the big democratic donors and traditional parts of democratic party but not be able to bring along new parts of obama coalition, hence the gay marriage sticking point. 2016 is definitely wide open. hillary clinton was referred to me...
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. >> joe biden, literally out of the deep blue sky >> bill: peter ogburn back with us. what's happening on the world of twitter. >> good stuff out there, paula tweeting in after our conversation we just had with steve israel. had he said how i hate i was redistrict out of steve israel's district. i am now represented by peter king. yikes. >> paula move: man. talk about going from one of the best to one of the worst. >> find us @bpshow on twitter. >> bill: it's pretty clear from talking with steve israel and just watching the debate over this fiscal cliff that when it comes to the middle class, republicans don't give a rat's ass. right? >> they are pull yourself up by your boot straps even if you can't afford boots. they don't care if you are poor. it's your fault. when mitt romney said the 47% comment and when he was recovered on that finance call after losing the election saying that, you know, obama will be giving out presents to people and you had some serious people in the room and say mitt romney is wrong. he shouldn't be saying this. >> that's not how we feel they
. >> joe biden, literally out of the deep blue sky >> bill: peter ogburn back with us. what's happening on the world of twitter. >> good stuff out there, paula tweeting in after our conversation we just had with steve israel. had he said how i hate i was redistrict out of steve israel's district. i am now represented by peter king. yikes. >> paula move: man. talk about going from one of the best to one of the worst. >> find us @bpshow on twitter. >> bill:...
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and it is exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. >> so that was speaker boehner obviously flanked by republicans. we'll get you that sound bite from the president because i want to make sure you hear both sides. here is the question i'm hearing people ask. if we go off the cliff here, how big of a hit will we take on taxs? stand by because i'm good to give you the closest answer i possibly can. to help me with that is laurie montgomery, the fiscal policy reporter for the washington post. so, laurie, welcome to you here. and your paper this morning, you ran through a couple of tax scenarios which were pretty palletable so we want to show our view whaeers what you ran through. let me run through two. we'll look at this first one. so everybody take a look at this graphic. this is scenario number one, married couple, two kids, one in c
and it is exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. >> so that was speaker boehner obviously flanked by republicans. we'll get you that sound bite from the president because i want to make sure you hear both sides. here is the...
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new poll that shows hillary clinton the top contender in 2016 followed by america's happy warrior joe biden at 16%. senator elect elizabeth warren comes in at 4%. what's the takeaway for you, angela? >> i think that people appreciate the fact that secretary clinton has demonstrated clear leadership at the state department, and they think it's her turn. it's her time. >> angela, matt, dave, thank you all so much. do appreciate your time. and thanks to you as well for spending time with us this sundays afternoon. that will do it for me right now. keep it here on msnbc for the latest news. i'll be back next saturday 2:00 until 5:00 eastern on saturday. 3:00 until 5:00 eastern on sunday. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. have a fantastic sundays night. [ dylan ] this is one way to keep your underwear clean. this is another! ta-daa! try charmin ultra strong. it cleans so well and you can use up to four times less than the leading value brand. oh! there it is. thanks son. hey! [ female announcer ] charmin ultra strong has a duraclean texture that can help you get clean while still us
new poll that shows hillary clinton the top contender in 2016 followed by america's happy warrior joe biden at 16%. senator elect elizabeth warren comes in at 4%. what's the takeaway for you, angela? >> i think that people appreciate the fact that secretary clinton has demonstrated clear leadership at the state department, and they think it's her turn. it's her time. >> angela, matt, dave, thank you all so much. do appreciate your time. and thanks to you as well for spending time...
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joe biden took a picture with him thinking he's obama. he is the guy behind gangnam style is exposed for a song called "stare american" what which had him rap kill the bleeping yankees who ordered them to forture. kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers, kill them all slowly an painfully. now he says he is deeply sorry for how the lyrics could be interpreted so there is more than one way to interpret "kill them all"? psy would rap a different tune about the military. hi'd do the silly horse trot screaming "save me america" prodded by a commie bayonet. but i don't care. if i got upset every time a singer bashed america i'd suffer from upset paralysis. this is about the identity and the death of ours. if you placed yankees with any cooler identity other than scen color and sexual orientation he would have been tossed faster than beckel at a tea party. american is no longer exceptionm identity that unites us all, who cares? patriotism is like ribbon candy. only granny has it. it's not like it's hard to get in the white ho
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years in regards to the debt limit and simpson-boles and in regards to the budget control act other biden talks with eric cantor there is some way forward. this is their blueprint for it. the wonks get deep in the policy. we asked questions in the briefing about that. i asked about the further discretionary savings, 300 billion, about what type of programs are included that. the house progressive caucus is hesitant to cut anything like food stamps that have been on the chopping block before. they say there's a caps that house committees would agree to. what we see from this offer is the speaker saying, look, we can do big savings, we can do a down payment to get us through until next year and then have congress work on a bipartisan way to have a bigger agreement. one other sticking point here, this sequester is not identified in this proposal. so what does that mean? all those defense cuts we heard so much about, essentially the answer is there's enough savings in this plan that could -- that we could deal with the sequester, saying there could be a punt on the sequester by the savings on
years in regards to the debt limit and simpson-boles and in regards to the budget control act other biden talks with eric cantor there is some way forward. this is their blueprint for it. the wonks get deep in the policy. we asked questions in the briefing about that. i asked about the further discretionary savings, 300 billion, about what type of programs are included that. the house progressive caucus is hesitant to cut anything like food stamps that have been on the chopping block before....
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>> i think republicans in congress work better with vice president biden than president obama in these sorts of negotiations. >> america's happy warrior could be ruled out. what's your headline, good sir? >> unfortunately like past headlines, "in a jobs crisis, the republicans are still trying to cut health care and economic aid." i think that will be more and more difficult for them to carry as a message when people back home don't talk about cliffs, they talk about jobs, they talk about unemployment, and they don't want manufactured crises from washington when you could cut these tax hikes on the middle class, first order of business. >> it is fascinating. you eluded to it earlier, number of guests have talked about this as well, how we are very much in the posturing phase period as you indicated. a lot of bluster, a lot of chest thumping. one has to wonder at what point, at what point, perry, all of that ends and the real negotiating gets started. >> it's going to get close -- january 1st is getting closer. we're further from the posturing stage and further to the negotiating phase.
>> i think republicans in congress work better with vice president biden than president obama in these sorts of negotiations. >> america's happy warrior could be ruled out. what's your headline, good sir? >> unfortunately like past headlines, "in a jobs crisis, the republicans are still trying to cut health care and economic aid." i think that will be more and more difficult for them to carry as a message when people back home don't talk about cliffs, they talk about...
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framework are things that we can all agree on, and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter in the joint select committee, and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and outline he's got an obligation to send one to the congress and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk to the president and work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. you know i think at this point pretty much most folks in the country and certainly in this town know where both sides are on taxes. i think we understand that. to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion in any specifics with this president about the real problem which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending, and an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what w
framework are things that we can all agree on, and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter in the joint select committee, and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and outline he's got an obligation to send one to the congress and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far they couldn't pass either house of...
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so the president was superman, biden was spider-man, hillary naturally was wonder woman and for some reason i was the green lantern. but first of all, i nearly had an aneurysm when the helicopter went down. because i had been sitting in the west wing of the white house in 1980 during the iranian hostage rescue mission when the helicopter went down. and so, you know, my first reaction, is, oh, no, not again, but the team, the equipment, the training, all dramatically different. and we were really out of -- you know, we had no idea what was going on inside the house once they went inside the house. until, until we got the coded message. >> that was it? what did you think when you heard that? >> well, you know, there was no -- there was no -- there was probably a sigh of relief in the room, but there was really no letdown or no high fives or anything like that. because we still had to get them all out of pakistan and in a way, the diceyest part of the mission still was in front of us and that was getting everybody out safely, and so, really, it wasn't -- i think there is just -- in some
so the president was superman, biden was spider-man, hillary naturally was wonder woman and for some reason i was the green lantern. but first of all, i nearly had an aneurysm when the helicopter went down. because i had been sitting in the west wing of the white house in 1980 during the iranian hostage rescue mission when the helicopter went down. and so, you know, my first reaction, is, oh, no, not again, but the team, the equipment, the training, all dramatically different. and we were...
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first we heard joe biden he was visiting a diner. as part of this administration p.r. campaign the president went to the toy factory. he's been with middle class people. he's had a parade of ceos marching in and out of the white house. the president is trying to build support both publicly and privately, meeting behind closed doors with nancy pelosi last night. behind this idea of raising taxes on the rich today. he said he would not compromise on that. but all along there has been the suspicion there could be that kind of compromise, that's where the wig wiggle room was. you talk to people about town close to this negotiation and close to negotiations like this over the years. they said it would likely in the end fall somewhere in between there. they could move as susan was saying that $250,000 that floor could go up somewhere around 500,000. we've asked the white house this a million different ways. they always come back to the same question. it's the revenue. but on the political side, the white house feels as though they won the election, they won that battle. and
first we heard joe biden he was visiting a diner. as part of this administration p.r. campaign the president went to the toy factory. he's been with middle class people. he's had a parade of ceos marching in and out of the white house. the president is trying to build support both publicly and privately, meeting behind closed doors with nancy pelosi last night. behind this idea of raising taxes on the rich today. he said he would not compromise on that. but all along there has been the...
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framework are things that we can all agree on and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and, for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk to the president and to work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. i think at this point most folks in the country and certainly in this town know where both sides are on taxes. but to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion in any specifics with this president about the real problem, which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending. an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is doi
framework are things that we can all agree on and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and, for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass...
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that bill being a high priority of vice president biden. the issue of the supplemental, i imagine, mr. speaker, the gentleman has seen the press reports that i have and that the white house is anticipating sending up a $60 billion supplemental request for damage related to sandy, and i think tomorrow would be that day. at least according to press reports. the gentleman may know that the fema director testified to the house yesterday that the agency can meet its need through the spring associated with the disaster. approximately $2 billion has been delivered with about $5 billion remaining in the disaster relief fund. so, again, no one is here saying we don't want to deliver the necessary aid to the victims because that is a priority. and -- but looking forward to receiving that request and taking a look at the numbers and the need to make sure we can move forward on that as well. and lastly, mr. speaker, postal reform. you know, the gentleman and i have, yes, talked about this a lot. know that the issue has to do with the obligations of the
that bill being a high priority of vice president biden. the issue of the supplemental, i imagine, mr. speaker, the gentleman has seen the press reports that i have and that the white house is anticipating sending up a $60 billion supplemental request for damage related to sandy, and i think tomorrow would be that day. at least according to press reports. the gentleman may know that the fema director testified to the house yesterday that the agency can meet its need through the spring...
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joe biden saying on friday, he wasn't going to budge. the white house wasn't going to budge on whether the rates should be increased. how much? that may be negotiable. john. >> any sense of what's next? more meetings planned? >> we don't know what's next. these are the developments we'll follow this week. congress set to go on vacation at the end of the week. the expectation is if this doesn't get wrapped up, congress isn't going anywhere, and there will be a lot of folks pulling up in washington. >> might be a good idea to delay the vacation a little bit if they don't get the job done. brianna keilar in washington, nice to see you this morning. >>> top cnn trends on cnn.com. the music world is mourning jenni rivera. she died when her leer jet went down. authorities spotted the wreckage in nuevo leon. there were no survivors. >>> josh brent out of jail on $500,000 bond. investigators believe he was driving drunk when his mercedes flipped and caught fire. the practice squad linebacker jerry brown died in that crash. his miami states pulli
joe biden saying on friday, he wasn't going to budge. the white house wasn't going to budge on whether the rates should be increased. how much? that may be negotiable. john. >> any sense of what's next? more meetings planned? >> we don't know what's next. these are the developments we'll follow this week. congress set to go on vacation at the end of the week. the expectation is if this doesn't get wrapped up, congress isn't going anywhere, and there will be a lot of folks pulling up...
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fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities and a former economist for vice president joe biden. jared, if i might start with you, speaker boehner says he put forward a middle ground proposal. no tax increases for the healthiest of americahealthy est of americans, yet he wants to rage the eligibility of medicare and he wants to slash billions from every program. if that's a middle ground proposal, i would rather have the paul ryan budget but maybe they're the same thing. >> i was thinking what does the right side of the spectrum look like. you're absolutely right. if you look at the top lines here, which is all we have really, jay carney is right. there are no details here. the first thing you have that should really raise eyebrows is they talk about $800 billion in new revenues from unspecified loophole closures. where have we heard that before? i heard in your introduction references to the romney/ryan campaign. i mean, that didn't work in the context of a campaign. with the fiscal cliff three weeks away, it's absolutely crazy to be talking at that level of nonspecificity. and
fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities and a former economist for vice president joe biden. jared, if i might start with you, speaker boehner says he put forward a middle ground proposal. no tax increases for the healthiest of americahealthy est of americans, yet he wants to rage the eligibility of medicare and he wants to slash billions from every program. if that's a middle ground proposal, i would rather have the paul ryan budget but maybe they're the same thing. >> i was...
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vice president joe biden out speaking with middle class americans today said that the u.s. economy has turned the corner. he was very emphatic about that saying saying it is moving in a positive direction. at the same time, he was putting pressure on lawmakers to come to an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. it was yet another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going up. >> these are hard working, serious americans who are playing by the rules, doing it all right, and struggling already in this economy. >> reporter: jobs numbers, proof the administration says that the president's economic policies are paying off. >> you see it in the retail industry, you see it in transportation. you see it in health care. and you see it in other sectors. you do see a continued movement that continues to show some positive growth. >> reporter: while cautioning the nation's economy is far from a full recovery, administration officials emphasize positive growth, sugge
vice president joe biden out speaking with middle class americans today said that the u.s. economy has turned the corner. he was very emphatic about that saying saying it is moving in a positive direction. at the same time, he was putting pressure on lawmakers to come to an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. it was yet another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going...
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i endorsed romney-ripe but because of immigration i was voting for obama-biden, because of immigration. >> you are unique in that respect. most people, most latinos didn't when they tell pollsters why they vote, they i'm voting because of the economy, because of jobs. all of the same reasons that everybody else gives. immigration is down by four or five. >> i got you. here's diana. you're from columbia, how old are you. >> 15. >> how old when you came here. >> eight years old. >> would you have this child deported now? >> no. i wouldn't do anything about it. it's not my responsibility. her parents made a decision. they're going to have to live with it. it will play itself out, both the courts and legislation. but it's irrelevant in terms of this issue, because republicans being forced to deal with its this way -- >> it's not irrelevant. >> it is. i wish it were. >> i wish it were if reality. >> you're going to doom the party to objects lessen. >> you want me to be this antiimmigration, horrible gait who hates latinos. it's not true. >> the distinct of point of screw that i do and they
i endorsed romney-ripe but because of immigration i was voting for obama-biden, because of immigration. >> you are unique in that respect. most people, most latinos didn't when they tell pollsters why they vote, they i'm voting because of the economy, because of jobs. all of the same reasons that everybody else gives. immigration is down by four or five. >> i got you. here's diana. you're from columbia, how old are you. >> 15. >> how old when you came here. >>...
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as political scientist, we love -- open season on vp biden will run but probably not uncontested on the democratic side. is there something specific about 2016 in terms of the rise of the tea party or the rise of diverse republicans and we ought to really be honing in on this early? >> i think when we get closer to 2016, we're going to see the fiscal fissures -- i think there are two wings of the republican party that don't agree with each other on a range of issues from climate change to immigration on a range of issues. i think we'll see those fissures come about. noticeably, there are no black contenders of the potential candidates. >> there is still a name broiling around out there. as soon as we coming, we'll stay on this issue. it's quite an interesting herd out there. i'm interested in what happens when some of the members of that herd come out. we'll talk about that when we come back. this family used capital one venture miles to come home for the holidays. that's double miles you can actually use... sadly, their brother's white christmas just got "blacked out." [ brother ] but
as political scientist, we love -- open season on vp biden will run but probably not uncontested on the democratic side. is there something specific about 2016 in terms of the rise of the tea party or the rise of diverse republicans and we ought to really be honing in on this early? >> i think when we get closer to 2016, we're going to see the fiscal fissures -- i think there are two wings of the republican party that don't agree with each other on a range of issues from climate change to...
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framework are things that we can all agree on and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year-and-a-half ago, and, for that matter, in the joint select committee. >> one interesting note here is how much businesses and ceos have become the political football here. i'm told that yesterday congressman kevin mccarthy, the republican majority whip, was on a conference call with ceos and he urged them to get involved and tell the white house in all their frequent communications with the white house that they need to tell the white house to start talking to house republicans. so ceos in the business community right in the middle of this negotiation. >> eamon javers, thank you. >>> john harwood has the latest on mr. obama's big meeting with some of those ceos. john? >> the other way the ceos are in the middle of this is the president appeared before the business roundtable today as part of his effort to continue rounding up support from various constituencies for what he calls a balanced approach. one of the things he pressed was a prio
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i feel good about not on the conversation with president obama and vice president biden and 13, but we met with speaker boehner today and majority leader reid. i feel the same way, that at least they're listening to us for the first time, at least in my history here, about a very significant issue. so we hope to be a catalyst for good. >> let's hope for the best. governor, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you very much. >>> sounds like military make believe, but it's not p. up next, new camouflage. stay with us. of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting through all the political spin. because for our 37 million members, only one word counts. get the facts at earnedasay.org. let's keep medicare... and social security strong for generations to come. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing tran
i feel good about not on the conversation with president obama and vice president biden and 13, but we met with speaker boehner today and majority leader reid. i feel the same way, that at least they're listening to us for the first time, at least in my history here, about a very significant issue. so we hope to be a catalyst for good. >> let's hope for the best. governor, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you very much. >>> sounds like military make believe, but it's...
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angeles this week and has a fund-raiser scheduled in the washington suburbs and that vice president joe biden has been meeting with his donors. and david wrote, hillary clinton is running for president. he came to that conclusion after attending a forum in washington where hillary clinton was a featured speaker and was introduced by what remnick calls a short, adoring film. the film was like an international endorsement four years in advance of the iowa caucus and the new hampshire primary. >> if you bet on the side of human rights, human dignity, more countries may have the same extraordinary good fortune that we've had. ♪ and when you smile >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comebacks, i can tell you i don't think we've heard the last of hillary clinton. ♪ girl you're amazing just the way you are ♪ >> i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come. >> joining me now, "the washington post" and jonathan capeheart. >> come on, these leaving her term as secretary of state. she's arguably been one of the best that we've had in a while. she's loved by clearly lots of
angeles this week and has a fund-raiser scheduled in the washington suburbs and that vice president joe biden has been meeting with his donors. and david wrote, hillary clinton is running for president. he came to that conclusion after attending a forum in washington where hillary clinton was a featured speaker and was introduced by what remnick calls a short, adoring film. the film was like an international endorsement four years in advance of the iowa caucus and the new hampshire primary....
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you know, they should sit down and really talk this out and the old joe biden way when he dealt with mitch mcconnell a couple years ago. extend the bush tax cuts, in the white house, they called biden the mcconnell whisperer, and the horse whisperer, and the way, one for you, one for me, and that's the way you make a deal. >> this moment, look to you we have a deal by christmas eve, new year's eve or over the cliff? >> who knows. somebody who thinks they know is only guessing. maybe there's a strategy in the white house, you know, by a certain date they'll work it out. >> play book, we always start the morning with the papers. we still love the print papers, assistant of the washington post, which, this morning, says fiscal warning yet to phase wall street. the stock markets are convinced that the fiscal drama is going to work out. the financial times has the opposite headline. they say wall street anxiety grows so which of these is more true? >> you know, -- [laughter] on wall street, they live in a zone of peaceful coexistence of optimism and pessimism. you can talk to somebody in
you know, they should sit down and really talk this out and the old joe biden way when he dealt with mitch mcconnell a couple years ago. extend the bush tax cuts, in the white house, they called biden the mcconnell whisperer, and the horse whisperer, and the way, one for you, one for me, and that's the way you make a deal. >> this moment, look to you we have a deal by christmas eve, new year's eve or over the cliff? >> who knows. somebody who thinks they know is only guessing. maybe...
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joe biden shopping at costco last week. did some holiday shopping, and posts pictures with jim senegal and warren buffett's right hnd man and bill gates' dad on the board, too, and receive early dividends and ay less tabs. several reports say the demand for microsoft's surface tablet is so weak that they cut the orders from the asian manufacturer in half. i own microsoft stock. lauren, where is it now? >> 1% and stuart, i feel bad for you, microsoft was the second worst performer in the dow jones for the month of november and needs all of the gains today. and you know, if you've ever walked past time square, i know it's kind of right by where we work. that surface pop-up store from microsoft is always jam packed, i guess it's in a busy area and it's surprising to see they're cutting back on orders. stuart: next time i go in there if i do. i'll press for an early dividend payout of microsoft's 50 billion dollars in cash so some of us can benefit before the end of the year, but i'm not holding my breath on that. all right, la
joe biden shopping at costco last week. did some holiday shopping, and posts pictures with jim senegal and warren buffett's right hnd man and bill gates' dad on the board, too, and receive early dividends and ay less tabs. several reports say the demand for microsoft's surface tablet is so weak that they cut the orders from the asian manufacturer in half. i own microsoft stock. lauren, where is it now? >> 1% and stuart, i feel bad for you, microsoft was the second worst performer in the...